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Post by Lori Croft on Jun 11, 2014 10:57:57 GMT
There's been a few interesting articles flying around since the new trailer came out. Mainly about the fact that the first time we see Lara after Yamatai (for those who aren't reading the comics), we see her sat in therapy talking to a medical man. A lot of these articles are stating that this takes the power away from the character, the fact that she's having to seek professional help in order to recover from the trauma of what happeend to her previously. But then, there are some articles like this one that disagrees and thinks that making Lara more human shows just how strong a person she is. What do you guys think? I tend to agree with the article. Even though I miss the old Lara, I'm liking this more human spin on the character showing that she isn't some psychopath who gets into life threatening situations that leads to her losing friends and colleagues without feeling any sort of remorse. Why should showing emotion or regret show a person to be weak? Surely it shows that she is more human? EDIT: Here's another article that talks argues the same point: Clicky
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Post by Jaywalker on Jun 11, 2014 11:22:05 GMT
I think its a great angle to take in the trailer. Showing the doc being concerned for her, that shes going inward and not facing things, but then cutting to her outside the room, clearly doing exactly what she wants to be doing, and most definitely more then faced up to her demons and tackling them head on..
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Post by Lori Croft on Jun 11, 2014 11:25:21 GMT
But is she really facing/tackling her demons, or just creating more for herself?!
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Post by Jaywalker on Jun 11, 2014 11:26:24 GMT
She'd be bored if she didnt have something to face.. be it natural, supernatural, real, subconscious, or psychological
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Post by Jaywalker on Jun 11, 2014 11:58:27 GMT
Rhianna just tweeted about this article and how she is irritated by it.. Dont blame her, its reading it only 1 way and making so many assumptions
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Post by herbienut1337 on Jun 11, 2014 15:35:22 GMT
I think it makes Lara more human. The game is taking a more realistic approach to that happened. Seeking medical help does not make her weak. Unlike many other games, where the protagonist mows down hundreds of enemies without batting an eye, The events of Yamatai have had a impact on her. I think by going to seek professional help, she shows how strong she really is. Being aware you have a problem is the first step to taking care of it.
In Lara's case, it's realizing what she wants to do.
Moreover, I find this more human spin on Lara much easier to sympathize with. I'm not sure why, but I find it easier to put myself in her shoes.
Just my .02 cents.
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Post by Jaywalker on Jun 11, 2014 15:53:35 GMT
Thas the thing, its showing the inbalance in peoples attitudes towards females as a whole.. IF this WAS a guy game character doing the exact same thing, people wouldnt bat an eyelid or would have them saying he's a sissy or something stupid like that.. there never seems to be an ability to find a middle ground its either all one way or t'other..
Crystal i think (and am guessing Rhianna has a large part in this) is trying to again push that boundary, NOT because shes a woman, but to show a HUMAN side of the character..
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Post by Lori Croft on Jun 11, 2014 15:57:28 GMT
Well it's not just the attitude towards women, but an attitude towards mental health as well... it's wrong to think of those who seek help after a traumatic incident as weak, whether she's a made up character or a real person!
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Post by Jaywalker on Jun 11, 2014 16:32:10 GMT
yeh thas true..
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Post by InXanadu on Jun 11, 2014 16:34:50 GMT
I think showing Lara with a therapist is a fantastic aspect of the new trailer. Is there a single non-psychopathic human adult who could experience what Lara did in the first game without psychological damage? Seeking help is an intelligent and beneficial course for Lara that is perfectly consistent with her personality, as well as the humanity that all video games should attempt to convey in their story-telling. In as much as her character has psychological realism, she is easier to relate to and empathise with, and her difficulties in the game are thereby given more impact and emotional depth.
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Post by AJ.R on Jun 11, 2014 21:52:15 GMT
Ya know, this would be the perfect time to bring the supernatural creatures back from "Ascension". With Lara seeming like she has some PTSD they could easily bring back those enemies as something that is in her mind or something along those lines. Facing her "demons" ;P
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Post by hayleyellen on Jun 12, 2014 11:28:37 GMT
I love this more 'human' spin on Lara - it's really good continuation from the reboot and only emphasising what they were always trying to achieve. To make Lara a more believable, real person. It's strong to admit you have a mental illness and seek help - not weak in the slightest, and the fact that Lara has sought help shows us how determined and strong she really is. She won't let it defeat her.
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Post by Vinegaress on Jun 21, 2014 7:19:00 GMT
I said this in the Lone Wold Lara Once Again thread, and I am pretty sure it applies here too: As well, I don't think she's actually suffering from PSTD as we're led to believe. It seems she's more agitated and wants to be out and about while siting with the therapist in the trailer. She might be, to a certain extent but I think what's bugging her the most is that now that she has had her fair share taste of danger, she wants to be back in it. Exploring, adventuring, discovering, climbing, jumping, attacking, and yes, even killing. It was always inside of her but it changed her and opened up a part of herself she didn't know she had. Lara may be upset about what happened, what she saw, the loss of friends, but there's something burning inside of her way more than all of those things combined and that's being a tomb raider.
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Post by drcroft on Jul 28, 2014 17:43:32 GMT
I really love the possible therapist bit in the Rise trailer (reminds me very much of parts in Beyond: Two Souls). It makes her seem more human, and I am fascinated by the idea that maybe a part of Himiko or Yamatai is trapped within her and she is haunted by her own mind.
For me anyway I love a slightly flawed Lara that rarely shows it on the outside.
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