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Post by Vinegaress on May 2, 2013 22:46:30 GMT
This is absolutely amazing! I've been studying the lost city of Heracleion for awhile now and it's finally been found!
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Post by Lori Croft on May 3, 2013 8:41:37 GMT
I read about this the other day, it's absolutely fascinating, I'd love to take a trip there and be able to see it first hand, must be amazing to work on it!
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Post by Vinegaress on May 4, 2013 4:18:52 GMT
I read about this the other day, it's absolutely fascinating, I'd love to take a trip there and be able to see it first hand, must be amazing to work on it! As would I! I can't believe they actually found it. It's been lost for so long and most of the artifacts and site is very well preserved; It's crazy.
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Post by drcroft on May 4, 2013 13:44:03 GMT
Wow that is fascinating! Especially how there are so many items that are persevered. It's like it has walked off a TR game
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Post by Vinegaress on May 5, 2013 3:28:27 GMT
Wow that is fascinating! Especially how there are so many items that are persevered. It's like it has walked off a TR game What gets me, is that this was literally just sitting there in the water and is so well preserved, enough to the point that it's in near perfect condition as if it came out of it's own time.
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Post by Lori Croft on May 5, 2013 9:20:42 GMT
Wow that is fascinating! Especially how there are so many items that are persevered. It's like it has walked off a TR game What gets me, is that this was literally just sitting there in the water and is so well preserved, enough to the point that it's in near perfect condition as if it came out of it's own time. It does beggar belief.... let's just hope they're able to keep them in that condition... you see it a lot with artefacts that have been in water for years rot away really quickly hen they're brought back into fresh air again! There was a news article on the TV the other about a German bomber plane that had crashed in a river or lake in England during the Second World War and has been perfectly preserved, only problem is that they've brought pieces up and it has quickly started to rot away... but they've discovered a solution: lemon juice!!!
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Post by Vinegaress on May 6, 2013 22:59:48 GMT
It does beggar belief.... let's just hope they're able to keep them in that condition... you see it a lot with artefacts that have been in water for years rot away really quickly hen they're brought back into fresh air again! There was a news article on the TV the other about a German bomber plane that had crashed in a river or lake in England during the Second World War and has been perfectly preserved, only problem is that they've brought pieces up and it has quickly started to rot away... but they've discovered a solution: lemon juice!!! Well the salt in the water is a natural preservative so it would be easier for the artifacts to be in almost perfect shape. Lemon juice as well, is a preservative used for the exact same reasons.
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Post by hayleyellen on Sept 2, 2014 0:59:50 GMT
It's so beautiful! I think personally, it should be left where it is though. The first image suggests they have removed parts of the site for analysis and without the water and its preserving qualities, I really do fear for the artefacts they may have removed. Monitor it, by all means; but it's best bet to survive further years it to stay where it is. Of course, I'm sure they could replicate and preserve it elsewhere but it would no doubt take the magic and eeriness away!
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Post by Vinegaress on Sept 20, 2014 13:57:25 GMT
It's so beautiful! I think personally, it should be left where it is though. The first image suggests they have removed parts of the site for analysis and without the water and its preserving qualities, I really do fear for the artefacts they may have removed. Monitor it, by all means; but it's best bet to survive further years it to stay where it is. Of course, I'm sure they could replicate and preserve it elsewhere but it would no doubt take the magic and eeriness away! To an extent, seawater can be a wonderful preservative, given it's the right catalyst for the type of material the artfact is. However, seawater can also erode as it's filled with massive levels of PH and high phosphorous levels from underwater volcanic activity and vents. Removing some of the artifacts is less likely to hurt them in the long versus leaving them there to corrode. There are likely many factors why it was as well preserved as it was versus what could happen to it if there was even a slight pressure change of the water, the geography of the seafloor, the chemicals and mineral levels of the water itself, etc., you catch my drift. All of those listed above could of happened and most likely will sometime in the future which could destroy the artifacts forever. The sea, she be a dangerous and unpredictable lass. A great way to learn about the preservation of artifacts in the ocean, is following this link. I found it quite educational and learned a couple of things I didn't know and I thought I did.
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Post by hayleyellen on Nov 30, 2014 2:25:09 GMT
It's so beautiful! I think personally, it should be left where it is though. The first image suggests they have removed parts of the site for analysis and without the water and its preserving qualities, I really do fear for the artefacts they may have removed. Monitor it, by all means; but it's best bet to survive further years it to stay where it is. Of course, I'm sure they could replicate and preserve it elsewhere but it would no doubt take the magic and eeriness away! To an extent, seawater can be a wonderful preservative, given it's the right catalyst for the type of material the artfact is. However, seawater can also erode as it's filled with massive levels of PH and high phosphorous levels from underwater volcanic activity and vents. Removing some of the artifacts is less likely to hurt them in the long versus leaving them there to corrode. There are likely many factors why it was as well preserved as it was versus what could happen to it if there was even a slight pressure change of the water, the geography of the seafloor, the chemicals and mineral levels of the water itself, etc., you catch my drift. All of those listed above could of happened and most likely will sometime in the future which could destroy the artifacts forever. The sea, she be a dangerous and unpredictable lass. A great way to learn about the preservation of artifacts in the ocean, is following this link. I found it quite educational and learned a couple of things I didn't know and I thought I did. Oh wow, that's a really interesting site! Very good read. And yes, the sea is a chaotic beauty. If it were up to me, I would have left them there and monitored them should they need to be rescued from decay and erosion - I truly do think it was beautiful 'as is' in it's original state but then that's looking at it from a beauty standard and not what's best for the artefacts!
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